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Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

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T A
T A 7 саат мурун
Linus, please can you include European pricing next time? Thank you.
Luke Borg
Luke Borg 8 саат мурун
because of AMD"s advertising... you can have an athlon 3000 CPU that runs LIKE 3.0GHZ! (in reality it's 1.4ghz).... i hate AMD< always have
Pwnpie
Pwnpie 8 саат мурун
for the first time in my life i am ready to make a gaming PC, have a budget of $1500 but its giving me a damn headache trying to figure what to get, everyone i ask have different opinions. oh god
King of Gamers
King of Gamers 9 саат мурун
What about a 3000 dollar limit
King of Gamers
King of Gamers 9 саат мурун
The i9 9980xe was worth it
King of Gamers
King of Gamers 9 саат мурун
I bought a 2000 dollar cpu worth it i9
Vern Haynes
Vern Haynes 10 саат мурун
Here is something to think about...Without AMD to keep it honest, how much would an 8400k cost? Competition keeps the tech advancing, keeps prices low, and ensures a constant stream of new/faster tech.
Luda Pecurka
Luda Pecurka 10 саат мурун
Soon to be for top of the top end gaming systems ;)
RiftMull ‘
RiftMull ‘ 11 саат мурун
anthony picked my motherboard on his first build lol
jodaneidajo
jodaneidajo 11 саат мурун
AMD won a Google gaming deal now, stock is soaring
Silverhawk Shayhan
Silverhawk Shayhan 11 саат мурун
I would like to see some comparisons between low PC hardware to high end server hardware for media servers, like plex or emby with all the features enabled to how different types of hardware effects performance of the software.
GMBlazey
GMBlazey 12 саат мурун
1050ti i5 3340 8gb ram £250 maxed anything ive ran
Zapablast05
Zapablast05 13 саат мурун
Lol AMD for poor people? What a blindsided dolt. I'll take AMD and put the money savings towards a more exciting hobby, like track days.
Carys Kelly
Carys Kelly 13 саат мурун
Can you help me build my own pc, please. I don't think you have ever done one with an older girl gamer. I am 11 almost 12, and I want to get into the world of pc gaming!
Victor Ov
Victor Ov 14 саат мурун
Would be good to see some productivity and stream benchmarks not just "gaming"/
Victor Ov
Victor Ov 14 саат мурун
Loool AMD is for poor people.
Alparslan Kopuz
Alparslan Kopuz 15 саат мурун
İ like the see more of this
plonk420
plonk420 18 саат мурун
one thing as a grown up, i don't skimp on PSU like i did as a "kid," not even for budget builds... at the VERY least a Seasonic Bronze
Hoàng Nam Nguyễn
Hoàng Nam Nguyễn 23 саат мурун
Question: Why Intel CPU and B360 only support Ram 2666, but you can put 3000???
The Legacy
The Legacy Күн мурун
Could you do an update on this video which includes productivity numbers? Considering amd's proficiency with the number of course, it would be very interesting to see.
Shorne Pubique
Shorne Pubique Күн мурун
they should make Anthony the Oracle. "we need to visit the oracle." then they tap the mirrort and Anthony appears and he says "thisss bettter be goooood" like the wizard of oz. and then they're like blah blah blah can you help us... and then he speaks in riddle and they have to decipher what he's saying and then before he fades away he does the tap head meme and leaves.
Tony Torres
Tony Torres Күн мурун
i dont see the appeal in budget "pc" gaming if you aren't aiming for at least 144fps/144hz just stick to console low budget computer hurt my eyes
Russell Winters
Russell Winters Күн мурун
Remember Athlon XP Barton cores? Pepperidge farm remembers.
1 WithTheDark
1 WithTheDark Күн мурун
What about a mid ranged 1200-1500 dollar pc builds between intel and amd? wonder if it would stay around the same or will one come out on top?
Dirk Snyder
Dirk Snyder Күн мурун
I would have liked to see how those systems differed in productivity workloads. I supect the AMD system would have blown the Intel system away in applications like video editing, simply because of the higher thread count.
SORAW441
SORAW441 Күн мурун
Nah, not really. Using Ryzen 2600X and a 1080Ti Mini no problem with a Gigabyte b450i, SP 512GB SsD, 16gigs of 3200 c14 DDR4 and Windows 10 LTSC 1809. I hate elitists who constantly act like having the absolute best is the only thing or GTFO. It’s not 1999 anymore. I agree AMD GPUs are buggy but I’m not complaining about FPS or latency on my CPU. Mistrust over buggy releases is hard to wipe off but I’m pretty sure AMD rocks now.
David Wesson
David Wesson Күн мурун
I really enjoyed this video! I would love to see another future video with an even lower budget, say $500, that may or may not be overclockable / for premium gaming purposes.
Jokery
Jokery Күн мурун
only reason intel better performs because focused on single core performance which most games use but when multicore AI in games will be a thing will be mind blowing and intel will die
john paul de paz
john paul de paz Күн мурун
i know linus is a very reliable..
john paul de paz
john paul de paz Күн мурун
what about the power consumption in idle mode or vice on its very peak demand
IQ DESTRUCTOR
IQ DESTRUCTOR Күн мурун
IM UPSET - miles teller, probably
EliteMetrics Playz
EliteMetrics Playz Күн мурун
Can you do rtx vs gtx
Israel Lewis
Israel Lewis Күн мурун
Nice to see Linus using an HP Envy ;)
Matt D.
Matt D. Күн мурун
I'm about to build a rig with a $2000 budget, so it would great to see how Linus and Anthony would do it. I'm new to PC building and driving myself crazy trying to figure out value vs performance....
Arkhein
Arkhein Күн мурун
You forgot to mention upgrading. You can keep your b AMD mobo up to 2020 (if I'm not mistaken) and use their entire mainstream CPU lineup. Intel on the other hand makes you switch your mobo for the high end ones to be able to enjoy more performance from an OCed CPU.
Saricon
Saricon Күн мурун
As cool as the other stuff u uploaded recently is, i am always so interested in these kind of videos, cause they actually help me deciding what to buy and probide information i can really use instead of just entertainment.
mohamed tawfik
mohamed tawfik Күн мурун
here is the better 750$ deal pcpartpicker.com/list/8NNFD2
Spfere
Spfere Күн мурун
Yes please, more of this, it is actually very useful for more than the rich kids that got daddys wallet to play around with.
Pixel SkuII
Pixel SkuII Күн мурун
Yeah but I have AirPods so
Random PC Test
Random PC Test Күн мурун
i5 7500, 16gb ddr4, 1060 6gb best cheap pc lol i5 and mobo for like 200 usd in a bundle NEW
mike szwagierczak
mike szwagierczak Күн мурун
try and do a budget gaming build for 500$ canadian. looking into doing a budget build myself but dont know what to do
Viktor Kenesei
Viktor Kenesei Күн мурун
And what is the vulnerability of the intel?
marceelino
marceelino Күн мурун
what was the OC?
John Locke
John Locke Күн мурун
How is that guy so fucking fat AND ugly
Tobias Carlsson
Tobias Carlsson Күн мурун
I'm rich, with AMD I'm even richer.
ReloadFast
ReloadFast Күн мурун
oh yes, bring them on!. It would also be interested to see a build guide that´s not from scratch, what parts would you change them. What parts would you carry over and what would you change, even if it's still relevant technology.
Swapnil Sinha
Swapnil Sinha Күн мурун
A 300$ build would be great..
Tim Owen
Tim Owen Күн мурун
"I probably should have gone for dual channel" Oh Linus, Linus, Linus.
Austin Swails
Austin Swails Күн мурун
hello i came here looking for the "Is AMD For Poor People?" video, can't seem to find it.
ImaITman
ImaITman Күн мурун
Please do more of these at different price points. This was a GREAT video
TheWhataman00
TheWhataman00 Күн мурун
And THIS IS WHY we watch LTT.
mattig89ch
mattig89ch Күн мурун
I would be interested in seeing more price point comparisons, or different video card manufacturers.
Xan the Dragon
Xan the Dragon Күн мурун
Man he went with an i3 lol
Aaron Slippery
Aaron Slippery Күн мурун
petition to add Linus to list of approved list of tech youtubers ayy m88 evga intel nvidia m89 lol
ACE
ACE Күн мурун
so Intel is to AMD as Walmart is to Target?
Fichte NullDrei
Fichte NullDrei Күн мурун
How did u not tested how much power they used?
The Curious Noob
The Curious Noob Күн мурун
Linus sounds so calm in this video.
Samo Gledam
Samo Gledam Күн мурун
AyyMD
Shawn Martel
Shawn Martel Күн мурун
As much as they both seem to be great options for different reasons. I can't get down with any company making people pay a premium on brand name alone.
vitthal chepte
vitthal chepte Күн мурун
Watch 3$ watch from amazon unboxing kgvid.com/video/video-ff5ZTws47Vw.html
Fred T. McCoy Jr.
Fred T. McCoy Jr. Күн мурун
what if you did a new build versus a top of the line build from last year/generation? like new stuff versus best stuff from 2 years ago?
Tim Ronchi
Tim Ronchi Күн мурун
Do the same thing at $1200
maevian
maevian Күн мурун
Intel prices are pretty reasonable in the US, The difference in price between intel and AMD is way bigger in europe
Pro720HyperMaster720
Pro720HyperMaster720 Саат мурун
So even in the US, AMD technically wins by a pretty low margin on Europe things look even better for AMD, I’m very happy that AMD is finally able to compete in the CPU market again with Zen, I hope they grow a lot and rebalance de situation, because AMD is yet extremely weak economically compared with Intel, if AMD is now again force to the exile with a failure like with Bulldozer with btw the FX 9590 as farewell, AMD wouldn’t survive, they burned all his reserves and more, live a bear in hibernation, can’t afford new hibernation just after manage to overcome the last one
Henrik
Henrik 13 саат мурун
Indeed. For 700 usd, the price of the full AMD build, you know what i got here in Norway? Ryzen 2600, Motherboard and RAM.. Which would be fine i guess if i made as much as the average Norwegian
akaGiant
akaGiant Күн мурун
I feel attacked
duddits 5k
duddits 5k Күн мурун
power consumption?!!?
Marc Gaits
Marc Gaits Күн мурун
I have been using Intel for many years, but after numerous reviews and reports. I will never go back to Intel. AMD all the way, thank you Linus.
Daniel Bondas
Daniel Bondas Күн мурун
I was looking a lot for a computer setup for working that it's around $2600 that works well as a Hackintosh but i didn't found a good one, can you guys make one?
NightMare Dark Angel
NightMare Dark Angel Күн мурун
I see the title was changed 🤔
foreign's gaming tech
foreign's gaming tech Күн мурун
Remember when CPUs were as boring as GPUs right now, before Ryzen came out? Yeah, me too. Ryzen is great and I would have done the builds differently, but this video concept is really cool.
EweToobUsername
EweToobUsername 2 күн мурун
Moral of the story - if you don't really give a damn about overclocking, get an Intel non-K chip and a B series board.
Rhainne Tizon
Rhainne Tizon Күн мурун
hip uh
Tim Clark
Tim Clark 2 күн мурун
I'm disabled and bought my i7-3770S for around $80 used for the first PC I ever built and it's still going strong, 1 month away from 3 years later. Of course I upgraded the GPU I started off with from a GTX 760 SC 2 GB VRAM to a GTX SSC(Super Super Clocked?) 970 4 GB VRAM but again, I bought the GPUs used. You can save a pretty penny going used and there is little to no difference
Ford Entertainment Group FEG
Ford Entertainment Group FEG 2 күн мурун
Linus...a 8400 is not more powerful than a 8350k in gaming.
Junker Zn
Junker Zn 2 күн мурун
Me either. Those numbers came out a lot closer to each other than I thought they would at the start. I suspect, though, that Intel really pulls in its margins at the higher-end where they can ignore power consumption and they have an absolute performance advantage by leaning on superior clockability. So we have the 9900K @ $530 against the 2700X @ $290, which is a whopping $240 difference sans cooler. If we just assume that we'll buy an AIO for both, the difference is the same. The Intel chip has a significant performance advantage, but you wind up paying through the nose for the extra cpu cycles. The question is... is that extra performance worth it? I would argue for most people the answer is no. For ultra-high-end gamers, sure. But for the other 99% of computer buyers (even the other 95% of gamers)... no. Not worth it. On the Intel side the costs keep piling up in order to squeeze out the last bit of performance from that CPU, whereas on the AMD side you can just stick with the stock cooler and the somewhat lower performance, but widen the price difference by another $40 (at least, keeping the AIO for the Intel), for a difference of $280 in total. That $280 buys a lot of quality-of-life for someone on a budget. absolute performance isn't everything. I think the fact that ram and SSD prices have fallen is putting a larger bulls-eye on Intel's pricing. It doesn't seem to phase Intel, but I'll bet the Zen 2 stuff coming out later this year will. Particularly now with ram prices having halved vs last year, and SSD prices also having dropped significantly, what can $280 buy? $100 - An extra 16GB of ram (on top of what you already have) $85 - A 2TB Crucial SSD (SATA) (which is $135, but also subtract $50 for the 1TB HDD being removed) $95 - With $95 remaining... that is definitely enough to also upgrade the GPU in the system, or perhaps a better monitor. Same calculation... incremental price difference by buying a better component. Now, the AMD system on air will be, what, around 20% slower than the Intel system on an AIO? Even so, these are still two high-end systems. A 2700X is no slouch, and the QOL improvements buys a lot of smiles. A better GPU will close the gap. More ram... if you have a use for it, will improve quality of life (else spend the money on something else). Having a SSD instead of a HDD will *definitely* improve quality of life. A person on an unlimited budget won't care. Most people don't have infinite amounts of cash to drop on their rigs, though. -Matt
Zachary Schumann
Zachary Schumann 2 күн мурун
I'm rocking a Ryzen 3 2200g and 1050ti. Totally fine.
Jay Money
Jay Money 4 саат мурун
That’s exactly what I’m planning on switching to. I’ve been running a budget build with an i5 2400 and a 1050ti for quite some time now and figured a newer cpu would have me better off. I can run plenty of games and have no problem but after time you get limited. If you have discord let me know, maybe we can benchmark and compare so I get a better idea of what performance would be like if I switched to amd. Surprisingly the ONLY game I’ve had trouble running was a game called rust.
Vipor26
Vipor26 2 күн мурун
I really really like Anthony. He and Linus have good on screen dynamics.
Ethan Martin
Ethan Martin 2 күн мурун
Corsair vs. EVGA power supplies next haha.
PjStarTV
PjStarTV 2 күн мурун
If you're going with a non-overclock chip, the i5-9400F is $15 cheaper than the i5-8400. It's only $15 but there's really no reason to NOT go with the 9400F if you're going to use a dedicated GPU.
Anowara Begum
Anowara Begum 2 күн мурун
What a set!
sergio scanzani
sergio scanzani 2 күн мурун
i would like AMD PURE vs INTEL PURE... (include GPU AMD )
bubbyj
bubbyj 2 күн мурун
Real budget build would have been an RX590 and save 150 on the AMD build. Benchmarks are not a great way to measure real world performance. For 1080p gaming, use the 590 and you could have a case and nice mouse or keyboard for the same price you guys worked with.
Zsavage1
Zsavage1 2 күн мурун
LMAO the RX580 or 590 will kick the shit out of the 1060... hahah and it's CHEAPER!! only around 200.00 for the RX580 and it's 8gb ... both you guys suck and budget built..
Wheel Trouble
Wheel Trouble 2 күн мурун
Something AMD people have known for years. Gaming benchmarks will always favor intel, as game devs focus on troubleshooting for those systems. AMD is bang for buck.
Happy Potato
Happy Potato 2 күн мурун
"Who could dislike the video?" 1.6k people... so far....
daniel najera
daniel najera 2 күн мурун
Could u guys do a 3d rendering test rig
imfastasfrickboi
imfastasfrickboi 2 күн мурун
here before they changed the title to why is amd the budget option and when it was is amd for poor people
Istarion
Istarion 2 күн мурун
>Gigabyte b450 >good vrm oh dear...
Honk von Brämstedt
Honk von Brämstedt 2 күн мурун
I'd like to see the most affordable non-blocking three screen office computer, ideally fanless 😎
cpear760
cpear760 2 күн мурун
In a video about budget gaming, sitting in office chairs that easily cost over $400.
Taluvian
Taluvian 2 күн мурун
I feel not using dual channel hurt intel build a bit.
St8kout
St8kout 2 күн мурун
Let me say up front this is not about fat-shaming, but seriously, Anthony, buddy, you really need to take action with your weight before it's too late. When you're young you think you're invincible, going to live forever. But the reality is you are heading for some major health issues in the coming years. We really don't want to see a Linus Tech Tip episode where Linus shows how to build an emergency defibrillator from a computer power supply, in memorial to the passing of his friend that he might have saved if he had one.
gary maya
gary maya 2 күн мурун
so if you spend those $40 bucks on shipping, the intel machine is faster, because it's there the next day???
Ray Majka
Ray Majka 2 күн мурун
You're right; that's absolutely correct.
Kenneth Hicks
Kenneth Hicks 2 күн мурун
Good real world stuff. Son;t forget about time...numbers change.
Maddy Carbuncle
Maddy Carbuncle 2 күн мурун
Content suggestion - performance scaling/throttling of GPUs from low/mid to high-end CPUs. I was shocked by how important this is when researching a low-end build and finding out a GTX 1030 was the most that would be used by my otherwise old machine. (You sort-of covered this in $69 gaming rig, but also expand this to an actual range of CPUs from low-mid to high, versus a small number of GPU targets such as 1050ti, 2060, 2080 - at what CPU level does each card actually show a benefit?)
Maddy Carbuncle
Maddy Carbuncle 2 күн мурун
I have to say. Your content rocks but I have to agree with others about the graphs not making sense. In the Intel vs AMD graphs e.x. my attention was focused on the blue vs yellow bars, but they were only about the minimum percentile, whereas contrast SHOULD have been used to highlight the difference between AMD and Intel instead. I'm not being sarcastic- serious suggestion- maybe there is a visualisation course on Skillshare or something that can help. The intent is great, the data collection is great, but the visual presentation of graphs is where it falls down. Love your work. Hopefully this is a helpful suggestion.
John McCrery
John McCrery 2 күн мурун
i understand your what your doing but while you were picking your parts you went with stock air coolers and not liquid cooled so your test might be off
Masta6801
Masta6801 2 күн мурун
Wait for Ryzen 3000 Intel we be in a rough spot. If it true 16 core 32 threads for round $550 on 7nm. Intel is struggling with 10nm. If that was an Intel CPU you can bet it would be over 1k.
Stefan50326
Stefan50326 2 күн мурун
That was fun. Do it again
Mercurio
Mercurio 2 күн мурун
You Could have Gone with a Vega 56 in the AMD build and just stomped Intel.
Mercurio
Mercurio 2 күн мурун
big nerd vs skinny nerd.
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